Thank you Simple
Worked after a bit of messing
Some reason my v7.83 had jre and not jre7 in the c\:APP\bin
It failed to load SIM after updates 817 to 837
I deleted the jre folder and made new folder jre7 in that location
Then loaded java 7 to that location and the SIM then loaded fine
Cheers Simple keep up the good work
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