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Old 09-19-2018, 12:13 PM   #1
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Default Classe A 05.2012 problème démarreur

Boujour.
J ai une classe A II 169 2L cdi 110cv.
Avec problème de démarrage. De fois elle ne démarre pas et le démarreur n est pas alimenter quand sa arrive.
Je pense à un relais.
Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir des schéma avec la localisation des relais....
Bref toute info sera la bienvenu.
Sinon j ai 2 default dans l injection
P1610
P2251
Sinon autre panne je pense.
De fois elle démarre et cale aussitôt.
Merci de m éclairer !
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:56 PM   #2
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salut
première chose a faire :
c'est tester correctement ton démarreur
moi , je démonte le démarreur et je fais mes tests sur un étau
en profiter une fois démonté pour le remettre en état
c'est pas compliqué , juste un peu d'huile de coude

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pardon , tu dis qu'il est pas alimenté (excitation)
regardes si les gros cables + sur le démarreur
sont bien serrés , câble de masse moteur serré
quitte a rajouté un cable avec des pinces pour la masse

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faire un diag aussi sur calculo SAM ou mieux un scan complet !!!!!!!!!
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Voici le scan complet.
Confort MRM5
B1350
B1348

CONFORT PORTE AVG
B100F

CONFORT PORTE AVD
B1011

TRANSMISSION EWM2
P2000

TRANSMISSION BDV CVT.
CODE 49408 BUS CAN LIGNE
CODE 53515 BUS CAN LIGNE

DIRECTION EPS
C1521

OBD
P2506

MOTEUR CDI INJECTION
P2153
P1610
P2251

ABS ESP
C2291
C1425

CONFORT KI7
B1102

CONFORT EZS
B100E

CONFORT SAM
B1017 feux croisement avg
B1017 feux croisement avd

Voilà le scan
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:51 AM   #4
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Bon après un coup de téléphone chez Mercedes. Le problème qui revient souvent sur ces modèle
Souvent c est la clés ou le neman.
Donc j essay avec le double. Et je vous redis quand j ai la solution.
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salut

tient le schéma relais
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sur les W169 EZS sa lâche jamais les clefs oui
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EZS ça veux dire quoi s il te plait?
neman!!!
je connais pas les terme MB.
MERCI pour l implantation des relais.
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EZS ça veux dire quoi s il te plait?
neman!!!
je connais pas les terme MB.
MERCI pour l implantation des relais.
c'est une marque
Neiman est le nom d'une entreprise
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neiman

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EZS (Elektronisch Zuendschloss) est l'abréviation de EIS (Electronic Ignition Switch).
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Si j'ai bien compris
si la partie antidem n est pas reconnus il n y a aucune action démarreur ?
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CONFORT EZS
B100E
après effacement , le dtc revient ?????
ton code panne est un code générique , il te faut la description précise du code de défaut
avec un bon soft comme DAS /XENTRY
c'est quoi ton soft de diag ????
Essayes ezs et ecu moteur / Paramètres / valeur/ autorisation de démarrage oui ou non

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si la partie antidem n est pas reconnus il n y a aucune action démarreur ?
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Je possède un mega Mac 42se.
J ai aussi actia original. Jaune et bleu.
Mais je n'est pas xentry
Avec les deux clefs ça déconne C est sûrement l EZS Qui doit être en cause.
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Dans les paramètre des fois même avec autorisation démarrage sur non
elle démarre.!
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je te répète que j ai jamais changer un EZS sur une W169 les clefs oui

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OK. Je t envoie ça demain.
A la concession ou j ai appelé il en on déjà changer a parement.
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