Audi A3 3.2V6 (peut etre distribution décalé)

[zingilingiling]

salut

Je me penche actuellement sur un Audi A3 v6 3.2L

Le moteur tourne comme une merde.

voici code erreur:
2 Codes défaut trouvés:
17748 - Capt. position AAC (G40) /vilebrequin (G28) Affectation incorrecte
P1340 - 002 -
17755 - Banc 2 Capt. Pos. AAC (G163) /vilebrequin (G28) Affectation incorrecte
P1347 - 002 -

Si on comprend bien la capteur G28 n'est pas en cohérence avec les capteur G40 et G163.



Je sais que sur ce genre de véhicule il y a un soucis au niveau de la chaîne qui AAC qui ce détend.

Vous en pensez quoi?

Merci

[Pilouf]

Bonjour,

Oui, il est probable qu'un soucis sur la distri soit présent, si tu n'as pas une défaut sur les capteurs.

Vois ces 2 liens pour le défaut 17748 (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17748/P1340/004928) et le défaut 17755. (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17755/P1347/004935)

Quel est ton type moteur ?

[zingilingiling]

Bonjour,

Oui, il est probable qu'un soucis sur la distri soit présent, si tu n'as pas une défaut sur les capteurs.

Vois ces 2 liens pour le défaut 17748 (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17748/P1340/004928) et le défaut 17755. (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17755/P1347/004935)

Quel est ton type moteur ?

Merci pour les liens qui sont très instructifs.

Actuellement les capteur AAC G40 et G163 ne sont pas syncro avec le capteur G28.

Si il y avait un des 2 capteurs AAC qui était HS et que tout le reste était OK, nous aurions le défaut sur un banc seulement , mais dans notre cas le défaut est sur les 2 AAC.
Donc nous pouvons conclure à 2 choses:
-Capteur G28 HS
-Distribution mal calé ou chaine détendu.

Je sais pas si je me suis fait comprendre.

[Pilouf]

Oui, tout à fait d'accord avec ton raisonnement.
Et pour le code moteur ?

[zingilingiling]

Oui, tout à fait d'accord avec ton raisonnement.
Et pour le code moteur ?

On peut le trouver ou ce code moteur ?

Dans le liens que tu m'as fournis , il parle d'un Bulletin technique 15-07-03, comment accéder à ce bulletin ?

[Pilouf]

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(https://www.vag-perf.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/plaque-signaletique-identification.jpg)

Il n'y a pas d'etiquette sur le véhicule :(

Avec la plaque il en est sorti ce qui suit:
Quattro (8P1) Série 2 3.2 i V6 24V DSG 250cv

Voici une photo du moteur si ca peut aider :). :
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[gary89]

Bonjour tu peux trouver sur ce site https://autorigin.com/

[zingilingiling]

Bonjour tu peux trouver sur ce site https://autorigin.com/

Merci pour ton lien , mais le site me réclame 10€ pour avoir l'info , alors qu'au début il ma proposer une consultation gratuite en répondant a 3 questions.:d

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Re-salut; j'ai trouver le code moteur , c'est BDB

Il apparait dans le rapport du diag :)

[zingilingiling]

Pour info avec VCDS ,voici ce que je trouve dans le groupe mesure:
https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/photos/2/1/8/1150218/8384226/img-8384226b8f.jpg?v=1

le truc bizarre c;'est qu'il y a aucune info sur les 3eme case (intake Cam. Offset)

[Pilouf]

Voici un TIP concernant les défauts 17748 et 17755.

[zingilingiling]

Voici un TIP concernant les défauts 17748 et 17755.

Merci pour le TIP, j'ai eu ma réponse sur une question posé au dessus concernant le groupe de mesure 208 et 209.


En cas de dépassement de la longueur de chaîne, les valeurs de vilebrequin -8,0° ne sont pas atteintes et sont de -9,0° à -10,0°. Si plus aucune valeur n'est affichée, remplacer également la chaîne de distribution supérieure.

[Snatsh]

salut ,petit info supplémentaire il y a une maj du calculateur pour éviter les acoups en bas regime .

[Alessiapia14]

salut ,petit info supplémentaire il y a une maj du calculateur pour éviter les acoups en bas regime .

Salut,
Oui déjà fait et on ne reconnaît plus le moteur après !!


Pas de clics sur réputations, pas de clics thanks, pas d'aide.

[uncleseb]

Salut ,
Ton type moteur est inscrit sur la plaque constructeur.

[zingilingiling]

Salut ,
Ton type moteur est inscrit sur la plaque constructeur.


Le type de moteur a été trouvé plus haut.

c'est un BDB.

[zingilingiling]

Je comprend bien qu'on aime connaitre le type de moteur monté sur le véhicule , dans ce cas c'est un moteur BDB.

Est ce que ce type de moteur est sujet a ce genre de problème plutôt qu'un autre VR6 monté sur ce meme véhicule ?

[tony60]

Salut j'ai un moteur complet au cas où.

[zingilingiling]

Le propriétaire me dit que le véhicule tournais très bien, ce problème est apparu du jour au lendemain .

[jphp]

salut la chaine ne peut pas se décaller !!

[zingilingiling]

salut la chaine ne peut pas se décaller !!

Oui je pense bien qu'elle ne peut pas se décaler.

[jphp]

Oui je pense bien qu'elle ne peut pas se décaler.
combien de kilometres ??

[zingilingiling]

combien de kilometres ??

Elle a 180'000km

Il y a un problème connu qui concerne la chaîne des AAC qui s'allonge .
Mais j'ai un doute sur cela doit ça.

[jphp]

Elle a 180'000km
pas assez pour un prob d'allongement de chaines la dessus le probleme est ailleur !puis il y aurai des bruits
pousse le diag

[jphp]

debranche les capteurs AAC un par un refait le diag a chaque fois voir si le diag change ?
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[Pilouf]

Elle a 180'000km

Il y a un problème connu qui concerne la chaîne des AAC qui s'allonge .
Mais j'ai un doute sur cela doit ça.

Salut,

Tu as fais le contrôle visuel en enlevant les 2 capteurs ?

[zingilingiling]

Salut,

Tu as fais le contrôle visuel en enlevant les 2 capteurs ?

Voici le contrôle visuel

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/photos/2/1/8/1150218/8388476/img-8388476f34.jpg?v=1



https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/photos/2/1/8/1150218/8388477/img-8388477b85.jpg?v=1

[Pilouf]

Il y a un soucis d'alignement, on dirait ??
Difficile d'être sûr avec la photo https://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/expressifs/yeux/alaloupe.gif

[zingilingiling]

Il y a un soucis d'alignement, on dirait ??
Difficile d'être sûr avec la photo https://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/expressifs/yeux/alaloupe.gif


Je refais une photo dans la journée pour comparer.

[Pilouf]

Je refais une photo dans la journée pour comparer.

Salut,

Et toi, en étant devant, tu vois la chose comment ?? C'est correct, pas correct ??

[jecdu33]

Alors finalement, que s'est il passé ?
J'ai les 2 mêmes DTC sur une voiture.

[Freestyle31]

Je pense également qu'un contrôle de chaine et recalage distri s'impose

[zingilingiling]

Salut

Effectivement la chaine était décalé (du moins détendu).

[vwseb]

On peut aussi voir le decalage (ou plutôt l'elongation) de la chaine via vcds