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Old 01-22-2014, 08:47 PM   #1
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Bonjour,

J'ai un énorme soucis sur un BMW,

Je me suis baladé avec l'AVDI pour connaitre un peu les options de l'interface (en anglais) sans savoir ce que j'ai fais vraiement. C'est un peu compliqué a utiliser mais bon ca a l'air pas mal.
J'ai cliqué sur pas mal de chose mais apres ma balade sur l'AVDI j'ai un défaut de freins resté au tableau de bord, j'ai roulé une semaine comme ça et j'ai décidé d'effacer les défauts MAIS là gros soucis, impossible de les effacer meme avec le KTS!

J'ai débranché et rebranché la batterie toujours la meme!
Les deux défauts (de mémoire):

Signal usure plaquettes essieu AR non plausible
Signal usure plaquettes essieu AV non plausible


Help les amis!! Merci
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:55 PM   #2
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Essais ceci :
http://www.hella.com/produktion/.../...R_B.pdf‎

J'opterais quand même pour un vrai defaut comme un niveau de looked insuffisant ou trop rempli !

J'ai oublié de préciser : en t'assurant que tes plaquettes sont ok et que la pointe et les capteurs ne touchent pas la masse :):)

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Old 01-22-2014, 09:22 PM   #3
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Non les plaquettes sont OK le véhicule est impecable, c'est juste apres l'intervention avec le Diag AVDI que les défauts sont apparu, j'ai du faire une connerie mais je ne sais pas quoi!!
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:40 PM   #4
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salut, pour moi rien a voir !
ou oui tu as peut-être changer la prochaine revision frein remplacement des plaquettes ????
je sais pas, ??
tu peut a partir de l'ecran CBS réinitialiser cet entretien sans materiel de diag
tu as le CBS ??
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:12 PM   #5
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Non il n'y a pas l'ecran CBS sur ce modèle, la modification de l'intervalle de vidange peut creer des défauts?

de frein pardon!

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Bonjour,
nouveau sur le forum je poste aujourd'hui mon premier message en espérant pouvoir aider car ce forum m'a beaucoup apprit .
Une remise à zéro du témoin d'usure est peut être nécessaire ,
suivant les cas , seul l'outil de diagnostic est capable de réinitialiser le témoin de service.
Si cela ne fonctionne pas , il faut shunter les deux contact dans le connecteur du témoin coté véhicule puis essayer la remise à zéro, cela te permettra de savoir si le capteur d'usure est incriminé .sur ce modèle le témoin est normalement a changer a chaque RAZ.
J’espère que cela pourra aider .

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:36 PM   #7
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salut
tu peux reinitialiser la revision des plaquettes avc l'avdi il y'a un module spesial
pour sa et c'est gratuit pas besoin de licence ...
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kada30 si tu as une info pour faire avancer la discussion
tu la donne entièrement avec des explications procédures , comment faire détaillé
sinon ca n'amène rien
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Oui c'est surement quand j'ai voulu remettre à zero l'entretien j'ai du cliquer sur les plaquettes en meme temps, c'est bien ça...

J'ai réussis à effacer les défauts apres une nouvelle remise a zero mais les defauts reviennent automatiquement, c'est dingue! Je vais regarder du coté des témoins d'usures des fois que ça aurait été shunté et qu'avec l'AVDI j'ai réveillé le probleme de detection...affaire a suivre
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J'ai donc remis à zero le service plaquettes AV AR sans changer la plaquettes (50% usure), c'est sans doute ça la probleme car aparement sur ses modèles là les témoins d'usures touchent dès le début pour calculer l'usure de 0% a 100% du coup la résistance du témoin ne correspond pas a une resistance d'un témoins neuf apres changement plaquettes.

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J'ai donc remis à zero le service plaquettes AV AR sans changer la plaquettes (50% usure), c'est sans doute ça la probleme car aparement sur ses modèles là les témoins d'usures touchent dès le début pour calculer l'usure de 0% a 100% du coup la résistance du témoin ne correspond pas a une resistance d'un témoins neuf apres changement plaquettes.

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Bonjour,
Oui c'est exactement ça , le capteur s'use en même temps que les plaquettes dès le début et renvoi l'épaisseur de celles ci , c'est pourquoi il faut normalement changer le capteur a chaque RAZ pour qu'il soit pris en compte.

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oui les deux capteurs touchent surement deja le disque donc la resistance est differente, je voulais savoir si c'est possible de shunter les témoins sur ce modèle? Pour avoir la résistance 0...si c'est bien la valeur quand ils sont neufs. Merci
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pourquoi tourné en rond change tes plaquette et temoin , si elle son usé , et tu reinitialise et tou cera ok fesable aussi avec le kts
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Bonsoir,
Oui c'est possible ,faire un shunt entre les contact dans le connecteur fixé sur le passage roue ,je l'ai déjà fait sur une série 3 c'est la même chose, la valeur revient a 80000 kms .

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