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Old 03-31-2013, 07:50 AM   #1
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Bonjour

Suite à une intervention mécanique sur un Peugeot 807 2L2 essence 160 CV moteur EW12J4 de 12/2004, la batterie donnant des signes de faiblesse, une batterie à été "malheureusement" branché en parrallèle afin d'essayer de le demarrer . Depuis, le vehicule n'a jamais demarré.
Lorsque l'on tente de se connecter au calculateur moteur , un Magneti Marelli IAW 6LP3.07 ,celui-ci ne répond pas. J'ai essayé avec deux systèmes de Diag differents (Peugeot et multimarques) , résultat identique....seul défaut apparent, système antidemarrage défaillant...
La seule solution, est-elle de trouver un calculateur identique ( pas facile à trouver suite à de multiples recherches, toujours vaines) , avec les memes references, au caractère pres (ou pas..?), et de cloner celui-ci defectueux ?

Les références du calculateur sont:
MAGNETI MARELLI IAW 6LP3.07
HW 16.674..074
HW 9657302080

Merci pour votre aide.
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:22 AM   #2
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ta démonté ton calculateur ou pas ?
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:18 PM   #3
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Bonjour

Oui je l'ai demonté et ouvert....visuellement rien de "spécial"...
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la plus part des temps on trouve probleme d alimentation verifier le relais de gestion moteur et les fusibles ou contacteur a inertie
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bonjour,
tu devrait coder les clefs avant de tenter autre chose
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le calculateur est verrouillé
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Connecte un fil de masse directement sur le boitier du calculateur, et après vérifié si le diagnostic s´efectue
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bonjour, il me semble que si l'antidem est actif tu communique pas avec le calculateur
a vérifier
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FAUX:
Que l'anti-démarrage soit actif ou non, tu dialogues avec le calculateur
Sur les véhicules ancien sans COM2000 donc en ADC1, les mesures paramètre moteur ne s'affichent pas (que des ???) quand le calculateur est verrouillé.

Sur le 807, si tu ne dialogues pas, vérifies les alim et masses du calculateur moteur et ensuite, tu es bon pour le remplacer
Ça ne pardonne pas d'envoyer 12 Volts sur la masse !!!
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merci,
mais j'ai le doute quand mm
ca dépend des systèmes ils en existes tellement de différents qu'on s'y noie facile
avant de changer le calculateur faudrait régler ce défaut antidem
pour être sure
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Ce message à l'afficheur "Système anti démarrage défaillant" est une conséquence.
Le calculo ne répond plus donc le BSI n'arrive plus à dialoguer avec le calculo donc défaut de communication donc déverrouillage du calculo impossible donc alerte à l'afficheur.

Et voilà.
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j'y ai pensé aussi
le calculateur est verrouillé
ca se déverrouille un calculo
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sinon il est cramé
seul lui s'ait ce qui s'est passé
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Tout d'abord merci de prendre part à mon soucis actuel....

Toutes les alimentations du calculateur , BSM, BSI ont été contrôlées, tout est OK .
Seul le calculateur moteur ne répond pas aux outils de diag.
Il semblerait que le calculateur n'a pas "aimé" le faite d'avoir branché en parallèle une batterie, sur celle du véhicule qui était "faible" .
Comme me le suggère J-SKY, il me reste pluqu'à trouver un calculateur identique, chose pas facile, après plusieurs recherches .....
Ensuite, un peu d'aide me sera nécessaire afin de le cloner, ne connaissant pas ce type de calculateur.....
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le fait de brancher une bat en plus n'a jamais griller un calculo
soit un booster je dirais ok ca risque
mais ds ton cas ??
c pas possible, a moins d'inverser les polarisées et faire un court circuit
et encore sans contact ?
ou mettre le calculo direct sur le +
c pas simple
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c'était quoi la réparation mécanique ?
embrayage ?
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