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Old 09-18-2021, 11:41 PM   #1
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Bonjour à tous,

Sur une Octavia 3 de 2017 avec un Moteur DDYA , je n'arrive pas rentrer le code de surité pour autoriser les tests et les adaptations.

J'ai essayé avec VCDS 20.4.2 et 21.3.0, idem
Alors que cela fonctionne tres bien sur ma Passat B7 de 2015 avec un moteur CAYA.

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Bonjour sonde original ou clone ?
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Bonjour sonde original ou clone ?
J'ai une 12.10.0 avec ATMEL reprogrammé en 21.3
Et une HEX-V2 en 20.4.2 EN+FRM d'origine
Hélas Clone toutes les deux, mais on très bien ponctionnées sur toutes les voitures jusqu'alors.

---------- Post added at 09h26 ---------- Previous post was at 09h24 ----------

Il faut lire "fonctionnées" et non "ponctionnées"
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je pense que je ne suis pas le seul dans ce cas :
Trouvé sur un forum Russe :

Incompatibilité de VCDS 20.4.2 et "Vasya Diagnostician 19.6" avec l'ECU Delphi DCM6.2V
Dans ma Fabia NJ3 avec moteur CUSB, ECU installé avec le moteur HW : 04B 907 445 (Delphi DCM6.2V), avec firmware N° de pièce SW : 04B 906 027 B , (Composant : R3 1.4l TDI H08 9084).
Malgré le fait que VCDS entre dans le bloc 1 et affiche des informations, lorsque vous essayez de modifier l'encodage, l'erreur Erreur 31 : demande hors plage apparaît .
Si vous entrez le code d'accès de sécurité standard 27971, le contrôleur d' erreur a refusé d'envoyer une graine ! Erreur 7F : Service non pris en charge dans la session active


Pièces de rechange sur la photo : 04B906027B
Lorsque vous essayez d'exécuter un test dans Output Tests, VCDS ou "Vasya diagnostician", l'erreur 7F 22 7F apparaît .
Dans le même temps, CarScanner et ODIS encodent et exécutent les tests dans ce bloc sans problème.
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je pense que je ne suis pas le seul dans ce cas :
Trouvé sur un forum Russe :

Incompatibilité de VCDS 20.4.2 et "Vasya Diagnostician 19.6" avec l'ECU Delphi DCM6.2V
Dans ma Fabia NJ3 avec moteur CUSB, ECU installé avec le moteur HW : 04B 907 445 (Delphi DCM6.2V), avec firmware N° de pièce SW : 04B 906 027 B , (Composant : R3 1.4l TDI H08 9084).
Malgré le fait que VCDS entre dans le bloc 1 et affiche des informations, lorsque vous essayez de modifier l'encodage, l'erreur Erreur 31 : demande hors plage apparaît .
Si vous entrez le code d'accès de sécurité standard 27971, le contrôleur d' erreur a refusé d'envoyer une graine ! Erreur 7F : Service non pris en charge dans la session active


Pièces de rechange sur la photo : 04B906027B
Lorsque vous essayez d'exécuter un test dans Output Tests, VCDS ou "Vasya diagnostician", l'erreur 7F 22 7F apparaît .
Dans le même temps, CarScanner et ODIS encodent et exécutent les tests dans ce bloc sans problème.
Cherche pas tu viens d’atteindre les limites de ton clone....j’ai eu le même souci sur un crafter....prochain achat un Vcds ori
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:13 AM   #6
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Salut,

Ton "Hex-V2" est en ARM_STM32Fxxx ou Atmega_(+loader9.2) ?
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Salut,

Ton "Hex-V2" est en ARM_STM32Fxxx ou Atmega_(+loader9.2) ?
C'est un Atmega 162
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Si tu as un autre PC, essaye vcds 18.9 avec loader 7.2.
Mais c'est pas garantie que ça marche ....

Il faut garder à l'esprit que plus on avance dans les versions et plus le soft est optimisé pour HexV2.
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Si tu as un autre PC, essaye vcds 18.9 avec loader 7.2.
Mais c'est pas garantie que ça marche ....

Il faut garder à l'esprit que plus on avance dans les versions et plus le soft est optimisé pour HexV2.
Si , tu as ça qui traîne dans un coin, je suis intéressé...
J'ai trouvé le soft VCDS 18.9 mais le firmware de ma sonde n'est pas compatible.
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Envoyé en MP ...
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Oups, je n'avais pas fait attention, mais tes captures d'écran "russe" vienne d'une version 18.9, donc je pense que c'est mort en atmega.

Reste à tester avec Clone ARM STM32Fxxx, sinon en HexV2 officiel ça fonctionne impeccable.
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Bon finalement, le problème venait à la fois de la sonde clone avec mon ATMEGA162 et de la version du soft.

Avec une sonde équipée d'un STM32 toutes les versions de VCDS accepte le code security


Avec mon ancienne sonde équipée d"un ATMEGA162, seule la dernière version EN 21.9 accepte le nouveau code de sécurité S12345

Grace à BORIS , j'ai inverti dans une sonde avec un STM32

Encore Merci à lui pour son aide
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