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Old 09-28-2017, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Problème démarrage xsara hdi

Salut,

j'ai une xsara hdi de 2000 edc15c2 et bsi avec nec

l'origine du problème, de l'eau a été renversé sur le tableau de bord

le client a acheté un kit complet, ca ne demarre pas

je diag avec lexia, pas de com avec ecu (ecu testé sur une autre voiture je communique avec) et je rentre dans bsi

j'ai pas d'alimentation au niveau ecu par contre masse ok

relais double vérifié ok tous fusible vérifié ok

alimentation bague ok

je cherche les 2 alimentations de l'ecu

au niveau bsi les défauts :

identifiant transpondeur non recu
réception transpondeur cc à la masse ou cc au plus
défaut de communication avec calculateur combiné/écran multifonction
défaut information vitesse véhicule valeur reçue incorrecte


j'ai le schéma mais je bug un peu dessus

merci à tous
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Slt verifie le faisceau moteur quand même la dessus y a eu des modif pour le relais double
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Slt verifie le faisceau moteur quand même la dessus y a eu des modif pour le relais double
qu'entends tu par modif pour le relais double ?
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qu'entends tu par modif pour le relais double ?
Y avais des soucis avec le prise ronde derriere la batterie il me semble tu a regardée les sortie du relais double etc les masse etc sont ok y a du jus sur les fusible avec une lampe témoin pas un multimètre..
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Y avais des soucis avec le prise ronde derriere la batterie il me semble tu a regardée les sortie du relais double etc les masse etc sont ok y a du jus sur les fusible avec une lampe témoin pas un multimètre..
oui j'ai scruté la prise ronde

j'ai aussi vérifié les sorties relais double j'ai bien du jus comme sur mon schéma sur 4 pins et j'ai bien continuité de l'autre coté avec ecu
y a du jus sur certains fusibles testé sur les fusibles, d'autres non mais je pense normal car certains élements ne fonctionne qu'après démarrage ou vrai contact si je ne dis pas de bétise
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Donc le voyant moteur ne s allume donc pas tu a essayer une masse en + sur le calculateur en cas ou on et daccort que si a la sortie relais double tu a du jus y doit forcément y en a voir sur les broche du calculateur
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je n'ai pas essayé j'ai pensé que mes 2 masses étaient suffisantes donc écarté le problème à moins que c'est faux ?
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Combien de broche a ton calculateur c'est un 1 ou 3 broche
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Les alimentations de l'ECU viennent du relai double, elles sont présentes ou pas avec le contact ?
C'est un peu confus entre tes 2 messages.
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Les alimentations de l'ECU viennent du relai double, elles sont présentes ou pas avec le contact ?
C'est un peu confus entre tes 2 messages.
j'ai du jus au niveau du relais double mais pas au niveau de l'ecu

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Combien de broche a ton calculateur c'est un 1 ou 3 broche
calculateur 3 broches
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j'ai du jus au niveau du relais double mais pas au niveau de l'ecu
Le calculateur est alimenté par les bornes 1 et 2 du relai double.
Les fils ne sont pas coupés ?
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Re alors part rapport a ton schemas je regarderai le capteur inertie si ta bien la continuite de la borne 7 du double a la borne A4 du connecteur 48V marron
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Le calculateur est alimenté par les bornes 1 et 2 du relai double.
Les fils ne sont pas coupés ?
pas coupé, mais je revérifie pour être sur ce soir

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Re alors part rapport a ton schemas je regarderai le capteur inertie si ta bien la continuite de la borne 7 du double a la borne A4 du connecteur 48V marron
j'ai pas eu le temps hier c'est ce que je voulais faire et schunter

dis moi pour schunter borne 1 et 3 ?
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oui regarde a gauche y doit être la y on peu être déjà toucher avant toi c'est souvent le cas ..
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oui regarde a gauche y doit être la y on peu être déjà toucher avant toi c'est souvent le cas ..
oui je l'ai bien vu bien appuyé dessus mais rien
je vais voir de ce coté au niveau continuité
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