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Old 06-02-2022, 11:09 AM   #1
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Default Probleme vw polo cfwa 1.2 tdi

Bonjour
j ai un probleme avec 1 polo 1.2 tdi de 2011 model 6R
la voiture ne demarre pas
aucun defaut au diag
le seul que j ai vu c est qu il demande une pression de consigne rampe de 300 Bars et que j ai que 136 Bars donc pas demarrage
la pompe a injection a eté changer

merci a tous et bonne journee
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Old 06-02-2022, 11:24 AM   #2
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Retour injecteurs controle ?


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Salut,

Oui en effet tu as un manque de pression pour le démarrage. Impossible que la voiture démarre au vue de la pression rail.

Dans un premier temps pour éliminer tout problème de basse pression, j'alimenterais la pompe HP en direct avec une nourrice.

Si tu récupère de la pression et qu'elle démarre, tu peux te pencher sur un problème de basse pression.

Si toujours IDEM, problème sur la haute pression.

Avec ce test simple et gratuit, on verra

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Oui en effet tu as un manque de pression pour le démarrage. Impossible que la voiture démarre au vue de la pression rail.

Dans un premier temps pour éliminer tout problème de basse pression, j'alimenterais la pompe HP en direct avec une nourrice.

Si tu récupère de la pression et qu'elle démarre, tu peux te pencher sur un problème de basse pression.

Si toujours IDEM, problème sur la haute pression.

Avec ce test simple et gratuit, on y verra déjà plus clair
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Old 06-02-2022, 12:28 PM   #4
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Retour injecteurs controle ?


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oui controle des retours injecteur effectuer
les 3 retours sont identique

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Salut,

Oui en effet tu as un manque de pression pour le démarrage. Impossible que la voiture démarre au vue de la pression rail.

Dans un premier temps pour éliminer tout problème de basse pression, j'alimenterais la pompe HP en direct avec une nourrice.

Si tu récupère de la pression et qu'elle démarre, tu peux te pencher sur un problème de basse pression.

Si toujours IDEM, problème sur la haute pression.

Avec ce test simple et gratuit, on verra

---------- Post added at 12h28 ---------- Previous post was at 12h26 ----------

Oui en effet tu as un manque de pression pour le démarrage. Impossible que la voiture démarre au vue de la pression rail.

Dans un premier temps pour éliminer tout problème de basse pression, j'alimenterais la pompe HP en direct avec une nourrice.

Si tu récupère de la pression et qu'elle démarre, tu peux te pencher sur un problème de basse pression.

Si toujours IDEM, problème sur la haute pression.

Avec ce test simple et gratuit, on y verra déjà plus clair
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la basse pression a ete controle
j ai mes 5 bars
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Old 06-02-2022, 12:58 PM   #5
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Salut,

Vérifie que le régulateur(5) ne décharge pas vers la durite de retour alors que la consigne n'est pas atteinte.
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Vérifie que le régulateur(5) ne décharge pas vers la durite de retour alors que la consigne n'est pas atteinte.
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justement c est ce que je suis en train de verifier....
je regarde et je vous dit
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Vérifie que le régulateur(5) ne décharge pas vers la durite de retour alors que la consigne n'est pas atteinte.
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le regulateur (N276) decharge vers la durite de retour
donc le pense qu il ne fait plus son boulot.....
Du coup la pression ne peut pas monté dans le rampe d injection
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la pompe électrique qui alimente la pompe HP fonctionne t'elle ?
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la pompe électrique qui alimente la pompe HP fonctionne t'elle ?
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Salut,

Quelle pression au + APC ?
Fais un essai régulateur débranché et relève la pression de rail ?
Refais un essai capteur de pression de rail débranché, quelle pression ? Démarrage ?
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Quelle pression au + APC ?
Fais un essai régulateur débranché et relève la pression de rail ?
Refais un essai capteur de pression de rail débranché, quelle pression ? Démarrage ?
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je vérifie demain matin et je post les résultats
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Quelle pression au + APC ?
Fais un essai régulateur débranché et relève la pression de rail ?
Refais un essai capteur de pression de rail débranché, quelle pression ? Démarrage ?
bonjour
voici les resultats
pression +APC 250 bars
regulateur debranche 0.5 bars
capteur de pression debranche 300 bars
pression demande au demarrage 300 bars

pas de demarrage de la voiture dans toutes les conditions

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bonjour contrôle ton niveaux huile si ton moteur c est pas remplis de gasoil si oui il ce peut que tu ai un ou plusieurs injecteur qui pisse il reste ouvert j ai déjà eu cette panne a plusieurs reprise sur ce modèle pour contrôle retire tes injecteur et rebranche tous sans les remettre dans les puits mai le contact ou mai un cout de démarreur simple et regarde si tes injecteur pisse
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bonjour contrôle ton niveaux huile si ton moteur c est pas remplis de gasoil si oui il ce peut que tu ai un ou plusieurs injecteur qui pisse il reste ouvert j ai déjà eu cette panne a plusieurs reprise sur ce modèle pour contrôle retire tes injecteur et rebranche tous sans les remettre dans les puits mai le contact ou mai un cout de démarreur simple et regarde si tes injecteur pisse
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les 3 injecteurs ont été demonter et avec 1 coup de demarreur il ne pisse pas...
le gazoil ressort bien par la vanne de regul
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